Who was getting 1k logs an hour? Bank is too far for that to seem possible. Also the prices were about 600 a log. Sharks are 350-450 a shark, and I could fish sharks fairly fast, I can guarantee I could fish way more fish than logs, especially with the bank right next to the fishing spot.

Also, who cares what the price is for magics, you don't need to sell logs to make money at that lvl. You make magic longs and high alch them for profit, so the amount you make per log is set in stone.

I guarantee the price of Nats will go down due to a huge drop in the amount of logs on the market, so if you want to talk about prices falling and markets crashing, you need to take all things into consideration.  The change will affect much more than you think.

Also WCing is one of the few things we could do as a group with no hate felt towards each other. The only time I was aware that there was the ability to cut a tree when it didn't exist was when more than one person was cutting a tree. Basically it was acting as if you were the only person cutting. So it wasn't allowing everyone to get unlimited logs, just some people kept cutting for a random amount of logs. When a new tree popped and fell it would stop your cutting and give you a chance to start again. But more than likely you were not going to start over again.

This was very cool and like I said before, very group friendly which made woodcutting a social skill, which is needed in a competitive mmo.

This "bug fix" was not a fix. It ruined our fun, it was fun hanging out together cutting magics, and it benefited the community as a whole, by creating and stengthening bonds between players that otherwise would have never occurred in game.

I already made a post on this in the general section of the forums, would like people interested in the supject to please check it out, or a mod to merge the two threads. Thx.

Except when you cooperate with mining, everyone gets 1. Just 1. You don't defeat the timer and respawn  it again. You still have to wait the minute, or 30, or whatever timer it has.

Except when you cooperate with mining, everyone gets 1. Just 1. You don't defeat the timer and respawn  it again. You still have to wait the minute, or 30, or whatever timer it has.

For people mentioning sharks. Food is fairly quickly consumed vs logs or ore. That is why fishing is made the way it is.

I'd think a solution could be 'special' trees and addition of guilds and special places that have higher requirements to access. OR! areas with more normal resources like someone mentioned, a woodcutting guild, but it cant be too many or we'd be back to where it was before the 'fix' needs balance.

Logs are used for fletching, and I have used way more wood than fish since creating my account. The price of fish is low and the price of logs is high, will be even higher now and Nats will be worth way less.

Except when you cooperate with mining, everyone gets 1. Just 1. You don't defeat the timer and respawn  it again. You still have to wait the minute, or 30, or whatever timer it has.

This is a horrible example... how many places can you mine coal? And how many rocks are there? Now how many magics yew or any tree do we have to cut? Very few.

No one has even touched the points I have brought up about the social aspect of it.

You're right, it is a horrible example. The two really aren't comparable. You need coal for the majority of the smithing skill tree. Of course there are going to be a bunch of rocks. In some ways, coal is more like flax, but you can stand in 1 spot and get infinite flax. I get it sucks nerfing Wc, but why are we actually complaining? Because they fixed a legit bug and now it's harder. Needing more trees is different discussion. Back on original you had 30 something servers, so you really had 100 or so mage trees. We have but one server, so I can see the argument for more trees.

This is a horrible example... how many places can you mine coal? And how many rocks are there? Now how many magics yew or any tree do we have to cut? Very few.

No one has even touched the points I have brought up about the social aspect of it.

You're right, it is a horrible example. The two really aren't comparable. You need coal for the majority of the smithing skill tree. Of course there are going to be a bunch of rocks. In some ways, coal is more like flax, but you can stand in 1 spot and get infinite flax. I get it sucks nerfing Wc, but why are we actually complaining? Because they fixed a legit bug and now it's harder. Needing more trees is different discussion. Back on original you had 30 something servers, so you really had 100 or so mage trees. We have but one server, so I can see the argument for more trees.

If you think this is my only argument, and that I am just bitching because I like things easy for me, then you are just ignoring everything else that I have said. I am going on 1500 TS after a month an a half on this server and I am by no means lazy or wanting things to be just easy mode. There is so much more to this than making magics easy to get.

This is a horrible example... how many places can you mine coal? And how many rocks are there? Now how many magics yew or any tree do we have to cut? Very few.

No one has even touched the points I have brought up about the social aspect of it.

You're right, it is a horrible example. The two really aren't comparable. You need coal for the majority of the smithing skill tree. Of course there are going to be a bunch of rocks. In some ways, coal is more like flax, but you can stand in 1 spot and get infinite flax. I get it sucks nerfing Wc, but why are we actually complaining? Because they fixed a legit bug and now it's harder. Needing more trees is different discussion. Back on original you had 30 something servers, so you really had 100 or so mage trees. We have but one server, so I can see the argument for more trees.

If you think this is my only argument, and that I am just bitching because I like things easy for me, then you are just ignoring everything else that I have said. I am going on 1500 TS after a month an a half on this server and I am by no means lazy or wanting things to be just easy mode. There is so much more to this than making magics easy to get.

I am ignoring the rest of what you said. Each skill does have its group and you may lose some people, but wc isn't the glue that is holding the server together. You click once and can still get numerous logs. They didn't get rid of the queue, they just stopped the bugged respawn. There is still time to chat during cutting and waiting for spawn, you aren't constantly clicking instead of socializing.

Comparing Magic logs to coal... How about comparing magic logs to Rune ore? That is much more fair.

Coal takes 30 mining, How many willow trees are there? That's more of a fair comparison. Willow logs are cheaper than normal logs, I used them for fire making.

Comparing apples to oranges here.

Just started cutting some logs myself, its god awful

Heading back to team territory to get some real logs l8er gators