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#112 Jul 2018 13:47

Theres quite a few problems with pking as it is right now and I would like other PKers to reply to this topic and hear their thoughts.

Few ideas to make PKing better for everyone.

1. Maging while running. Thats a thing. It shouldnt be. A lot of people have complained about it but nothing has been done. Why is it bad? Let me break it down to you.

Example. I was just minding my own business trying to pick fights with noobs at fort. Brave as I am I didnt hesitate to fight 2 players in fort while being all alone. Wilderness is a scary place but man let me tell you... I was everything but afraid. One of them was flats, the other one was level 100 so it wasnt that bad being flats myself. Next thing you know theres 4 players on me. Alright. Time to run, nothing to win, I can only lose. I run out of the fort. First attempt to run and I get away! Now guys, we are talking about 3 flats and a level 100 on my ass all of them maging me. Getting away 4vs1 is unacceptable. This tells you alot about the pking skills these players who probably would like to stay anonymous got. You have to take into consideration that the east side of fort is crowded with trees so catching is easier than most areas of the wild. So there I am, running away with 10 swordfish and full HP left. But they keep maging me. Maging and not losing squares, thats a problem. I keep running, I make it all the way from fort to lessers demon cage. I cant do anything about it. These players didnt have a skill to take me down even with numbers. I cant log out, I cant do anything. They just "bug abuse" me to death. Yeah, its not a bug...technically, since no one has been willing to do anything about it so far.

The catching part. Catching is so much easier than it was in RSC. You dont have "PID" so everyone has catch on everyone all the time. The server runs smooth enough for everyone to be able to atleast 2square catch. You can hold attack menu open for whatever time, it doesnt matter. Basically you can do anything as long as the distance from the player being caught is less than 2 squares. The year is 2018, everone has good connection. Its no longer 256kbit connection like it might have been for alot of players back in 2001. So why oh why do we reward maging to death? Failing a catch should be a punishment. If you have half of the food left and you "get away" but are still maged to death something has gone terribly wrong.

Obvious suggestions to make it better for everyone.
A) Make it lose 1 square just like it did in RSC
B) Make it possible to logout after 10 seconds when youre not in combat JUST LIKE IT WAS IN RSC.

Right now you cant really blame anyone for logging out. Cmon, the map cuts, the NPCS, the running while maging. Its very very stupid. You rarely lose a square while running. Its only good for PKing in numbers and noobs. It doesnt require any skill at all. If youre a PKer and you read this post, please leave your opinion.


2. Android advantage.

Autocasting. Not cool. Either make it autocast for PC as well (please dont, im kidding) or remove the option. Or... make the time to cast a bit slower. Its not hard to just tap on a button. It makes 1vs1 ridiculously unfair. Its so bad at this point theres really no point to 1vs1 vs android users. PKers log out from PC and go on droid for 1vs1. Thats the reality. They have an edge tapping a button +  quick bow change. I say just make it a bit slower for android since its so easy to have a perfect cast and STILL BEING ABLE TO cast while eating. Android is an addition and its a PC game. And lets face it, most of us have iphones not androids anyways so why reward these players. NOT COOL.

If youre a PKer and you read this post, please leave your opinion.

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#212 Jul 2018 14:13

I'll agree with everything but the ipoop comment. No 1 i know owns that shit phone.

Also when they took away the 10 sec log rule it just helped big teams and fucked soloers.


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#312 Jul 2018 14:16

KizL said:

I'll agree with everything but the ipoop comment. No 1 i know owns that shit phone.

Also when they took away the 10 sec log rule it just helped big teams and fucked soloers.


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I guess that depends on where you live.

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#412 Jul 2018 14:16

Agreed

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#512 Jul 2018 16:14

I don't know anyone with a crap iphone. But if casting works like you say then fix it plz. Leave droid app alone.

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#612 Jul 2018 16:57

KizL said:

I'll agree with everything but the ipoop comment. No 1 i know owns that shit phone.

Also when they took away the 10 sec log rule it just helped big teams and fucked soloers.


~K!zL


Can you elaborate please? Im trying to run scenarios in my head but dont follow how it could help teams.

Right now you can just cast till someone runs to NPCs. If youre fighting deep in the wild failing a catch is nothing since you can just wait till your opponent runs to NPCs. If anything it helps the "little guy" to get away from less skillful teams.

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#712 Jul 2018 16:59

Droid deserves some boost, I do agree about maging while walking, if you fail to catch they should be away.

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#812 Jul 2018 19:11

Wild Patrol said:

KizL said:

I'll agree with everything but the ipoop comment. No 1 i know owns that shit phone.

Also when they took away the 10 sec log rule it just helped big teams and fucked soloers.


~K!zL


Can you elaborate please? Im trying to run scenarios in my head but dont follow how it could help teams.

Right now you can just cast till someone runs to NPCs. If youre fighting deep in the wild failing a catch is nothing since you can just wait till your opponent runs to NPCs. If anything it helps the "little guy" to get away from less skillful teams.

That's what I meant. Getting rid of the 10 sec rule helps teams destroy soloers. You've got very little chance to get away. At least with the 10sec log rule you could escape..


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#912 Jul 2018 19:25

"2. Android advantage."
Let's talk about PC advantage.. 8v1... Enough said, don't talk about Android and changing it up if you don't know what you are talking about... Android is limited to 1 account to pk on, 2 if you know how to use split screen like a pro vs a PC player who can range on 7 accounts and fight you on 1.

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#1012 Jul 2018 19:43

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"2. Android advantage."
Let's talk about PC advantage.. 8v1... Enough said, don't talk about Android and changing it up if you don't know what you are talking about... Android is limited to 1 account to pk on, 2 if you know how to use split screen like a pro vs a PC player who can range on 7 accounts and fight you on 1.

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#1112 Jul 2018 21:24

KizL said:

Wild Patrol said:

KizL said:

I'll agree with everything but the ipoop comment. No 1 i know owns that shit phone.

Also when they took away the 10 sec log rule it just helped big teams and fucked soloers.


~K!zL


Can you elaborate please? Im trying to run scenarios in my head but dont follow how it could help teams.

Right now you can just cast till someone runs to NPCs. If youre fighting deep in the wild failing a catch is nothing since you can just wait till your opponent runs to NPCs. If anything it helps the "little guy" to get away from less skillful teams.

That's what I meant. Getting rid of the 10 sec rule helps teams destroy soloers. You've got very little chance to get away. At least with the 10sec log rule you could escape..


~K!zL

How is escaping harder? You can just log out instead of getting maged to death. Am confused/stoopid.

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#1212 Jul 2018 21:36

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"2. Android advantage."
Let's talk about PC advantage.. 8v1... Enough said, don't talk about Android and changing it up if you don't know what you are talking about... Android is limited to 1 account to pk on, 2 if you know how to use split screen like a pro vs a PC player who can range on 7 accounts and fight you on 1.


Most ignorant post Ive ever read here. After a long ass post the only thing you reply to is "yeah but what about these few who multi". Most casting PKing is done at flats. On flats the only PKer I can think of who always multies you 1vs1 is Nyx.  8vs1 from 1 guy? Yeah that has probably never happened so dont exaggerate. Multing is one thing but theres so many pkers who cant really PK but they are good at tapping their phone button and running around with atleast 3 other nubs. You can get away the first try running. Red viper comes to mind lol. Dont see a point in rewarding bad PKers/teams. This is a PC game and nothing on droid should be more powerful than PC. Log on with your laptop/PC if you wanna PK decently. I, myself, never multi and dont see a huge problem with it, this casting thing however rewards people with androids... thats all. But yeah most people seem to not agree with this point. Im fine with it.

Alot of people replied to point 1 and agreed with me.

Hope this will be changed. Will be bumping this thread till it does or people say they dont agree with us and why.

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#1313 Jul 2018 00:51

Wild Patrol said:

And lets face it, most of us have iphones not androids anyways so why reward these players.

Mostly unrelated to your thread, but FYI: In the first quarter of 2018, 85.9 percent of all smartphones sold to end users were phones with the Android operating system.

In the last 10 years, the highest percent of sales that iPhone reached was 23.8% and that was all the way back in 2012.

iPhone hasn't been the dominant phone for a very long time.

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#1413 Jul 2018 01:30

Wild Patrol said:

KizL said:

Wild Patrol said:

Can you elaborate please? Im trying to run scenarios in my head but dont follow how it could help teams.

Right now you can just cast till someone runs to NPCs. If youre fighting deep in the wild failing a catch is nothing since you can just wait till your opponent runs to NPCs. If anything it helps the "little guy" to get away from less skillful teams.

That's what I meant. Getting rid of the 10 sec rule helps teams destroy soloers. You've got very little chance to get away. At least with the 10sec log rule you could escape..


~K!zL

How is escaping harder? You can just log out instead of getting maged to death. Am confused/stoopid.

Lol yes its easier if you CAN log after 10 secs but if you can't log after 10 secs out of combat it allows big teams to destroy you because you can't escape. etc etc... you can't log from them.


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#1513 Jul 2018 01:51

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Wild Patrol said:

And lets face it, most of us have iphones not androids anyways so why reward these players.

Mostly unrelated to your thread, but FYI: In the first quarter of 2018, 85.9 percent of all smartphones sold to end users were phones with the Android operating system.

In the last 10 years, the highest percent of sales that iPhone reached was 23.8% and that was all the way back in 2012.

iPhone hasn't been the dominant phone for a very long time.


Yeah, sorry bout that. Depends where you live tho. I swear 90% of people have iphones in L. A. Kinda unrelated remark I guess. Not saying iphone is better or anything. Didnt expect it to be the main focus of the discussion ITT lol.

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#1613 Jul 2018 09:38

"Most casting PKing is done at flats. On flats the only PKer I can think of who always multies you 1vs1 is Nyx."

"8vs1 from 1 guy? Yeah that has probably never happened so dont exaggerate."

Both of your statements there are best friend. I can name a lot of elite pkers who multi 1v1 flats besides nyx. And 8v1? Yea it's happened to be and a buddy of mine because we pk on droid.

If you don't like the wildy and the way it is for Droid users, then don't pk at all.

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#1713 Jul 2018 09:41

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"Most casting PKing is done at flats. On flats the only PKer I can think of who always multies you 1vs1 is Nyx."

"8vs1 from 1 guy? Yeah that has probably never happened so dont exaggerate."

Both of your statements there are ignorant. I can name a lot of elite pkers who multi 1v1 flats besides nyx. And 8v1? Yea it's happened to be and a buddy of mine because we pk on droid.

If you don't like the wildy and the way it is for Droid users, then don't pk at all.


Thats like saying if you dont like eating fish dont eat at all. The level your brain works at is both amazing and scary.

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#1813 Jul 2018 13:50

BUMP

So will the mage abuse be fixed and when?

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#1913 Jul 2018 15:06

Walking and casting is fine and always has been, shows who can cast and who can't, even though it's pretty smooth and easier to do in here than any other server. Please do not touch the mechanics of pking anymore you'll just fuck things up.

Catching is great in here and fine the way it is.

You can logout after not being in combat for 10 seconds now?

Android has some advantages yeah it is basically autocast, but then again if they would have to open spellbook everytime to cast they would probably get outcasted 4:1, i don't have a problem with android casting because if you're decent caster yourself theres no way that someone will outcast you, atleast droid pkers can compete now, but i see the problem.

Do not change the casting timer it's good how it is. Was annoying as hell when you were able to take a sip of your morning coffee between the casts, if anything make it faster lol

From what i understand android has a HUGE advantage against PC players on staking. They can literally switch modes ammys plates klanks at the same time which is exactly same if you used stake bot, guess something could be done about that.

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#2013 Jul 2018 15:47

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Walking and casting is fine and always has been, shows who can cast and who can't, even though it's pretty smooth and easier to do in here than any other server.


First one to think this is a good idea. Yeah dont see the "whos good and whos not". How fucking hard is it to mage and click ahead. Its not like the one being chased can change direction or the map will cut and the distance will be less than 2 squares. Requires zero skill.

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