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no reason to disagree here

What Staff will tell you

People will scam you constantly and we don't want to deal with it. It ruins self-accomplisment.

Why it's a bullshit answer

In my time as Staff on a similar sized server, there was only one instance I can recall of a player attempting to scam another with an account sale. It was quickly resolved. There's 200 players in the world that play this game. They all know scamming=automatic ban. No one's going to try to scam others for accounts. There's no skill or fun involved in clicking "Login" every 20 minutes for a month. There's no accomplishent of creating a 40 1 99, a 1 99 1 or any other build because every PK build is perfect due to fast rates and sub downs.

The Truth

                                          #1

They don't allow it to skew the online count. At any given time you have large portion of "Players Online" purely AFK, training a flats, staker or new pker build, making it appear busier than it actually is. Why? Because they can't buy one. There are literally tens of thousands of inactive RscR accounts.

                                          #2

At this point, there are so many PKers and Flats by allowing account sales, training new accounts would be completely optional. Those with big banks would simply buy massive lists, thus decreasing accounts trained and decreasing subs bought for real money. When a player buys a sub for in-game GP, he didn't pay money for it, but someone did. If he buys an account for GP, Revolution makes nothing.

Ya makes sense. What about X amount agreed upon +Sub/2subs for the RSCR cut tho.

Grinding combat stats is a waste of time. Older players have the chars/share chars already as they should. With very little pking its just waste of time to grind new pkers.

What Staff will tell you

People will scam you constantly and we don't want to deal with it. It ruins self-accomplisment.

Why it's a bullshit answer

In my time as Staff on a similar sized server, there was only one instance I can recall of a player attempting to scam another with an account sale. It was quickly resolved. There's 200 players in the world that play this game. They all know scamming=automatic ban. No one's going to try to scam others for accounts. There's no skill or fun involved in clicking "Login" every 20 minutes for a month. There's no accomplishent of creating a 40 1 99, a 1 99 1 or any other build because every PK build is perfect due to fast rates and sub downs.

The Truth

                                          #1

They don't allow it to skew the online count. At any given time you have large portion of "Players Online" purely AFK, training a flats, staker or new pker build, making it appear busier than it actually is. Why? Because they can't buy one. There are literally tens of thousands of inactive RscR accounts.

                                          #2

At this point, there are so many PKers and Flats by allowing account sales, training new accounts would be completely optional. Those with big banks would simply buy massive lists, thus decreasing accounts trained and decreasing subs bought for real money. When a player buys a sub for in-game GP, he didn't pay money for it, but someone did. If he buys an account for GP, Revolution makes nothing.

P.S. Yes, they could make it so it costs 1 sub to transfer. But if I want a "unique" account of sorts, it might take me months of buying Subs to train it vs 1x Sub to buy one pre-made. In the end, all of the Admins get a portion of Sub Sales which is why they immediately shut down the idea.

In my opinion the online count would just go up. Eventually you would get more and more new unique players playing, and a bunch of people training multiple accounts at the same time, i don't really see online count dropping due this. I know a hella many players who do not just simply have time anymore to train all the accounts over and over, but would play if they just had the accounts. They would get GP to buy some accounts way easier than to train  all the accounts.. but well yeah you're probably right about most of the things you said, but i can't really see a noticable decrease on sub sales from this, would probably increase a bit? Anyways, it's a pretty stupid rule overall. I've played Private servers since the first server ever and probably around 100 others, and this is probably the first server to not allow it. Of course there would probably be a few bad experiences, someone trying to scam you and whatsoever, but thats your own risk, and it would probably happen 1 out of 100 times anyways.

There has been hundreds and thousands of accounts sold for $ already behind the scenes, and will continue to be sold, just can't really understand this. Maybe 1 day they decide to allow this, who knows. You're right about there only being like 200 players left in the whole scene, i would do anything to get them over here. This is a dying game and probably wont be here much longer. People in their 30s having 30mins time to play per day wont even bother playing because they know they can't compete. Waiting for kizl or some other nolifer commenting how its their own fault because they're playing 18 hours a day and it's really easy to train. blah

+1

+1 to this
Server or owner should get a % of the sale as well since somebody is using their platform to generate income

Add a system on the site. Seller gives buyer a link, buyer pays rev $1 (or whatever) and selects a char that has gp in inventory. Then clicks purchase char. Sends money to sellers bank from buyers invent. Rev makes out and players make out. Win win win. Also could add a "Selling Token" to shop. Like $20 and allows you to sell so many chars. Sellers could then buy the option to sell account for gp.  But, in the end subs will get used on the accounts gaining rev revenue. The subs are purchased with url cash so as long as the subs get used and removed from market, players still buy more from the site. Rev loses nothing. If anything they would gain from the new chars being subbed to train and sale. In the end rev would make more money by allowing it.

EXACTLY. I've seen some mods vouching for this in the past but it seems its the admins who has a problem with this thinking its RWT somehow. I'd like to see a reply from someone from the staff team

Add a system on the site. Seller gives buyer a link, buyer pays rev $1 (or whatever) and selects a char that has gp in inventory. Then clicks purchase char. Sends money to sellers bank from buyers invent. Rev makes out and players make out. Win win win. Also could add a "Selling Token" to shop. Like $20 and allows you to sell so many chars. Sellers could then buy the option to sell account for gp.  But, in the end subs will get used on the accounts gaining rev revenue. The subs are purchased with url cash so as long as the subs get used and removed from market, players still buy more from the site. Rev loses nothing. If anything they would gain from the new chars being subbed to train and sale. In the end rev would make more money by allowing it.

cool idea

Add a system on the site. Seller gives buyer a link, buyer pays rev $1 (or whatever) and selects a char that has gp in inventory. Then clicks purchase char. Sends money to sellers bank from buyers invent. Rev makes out and players make out. Win win win. Also could add a "Selling Token" to shop. Like $20 and allows you to sell so many chars. Sellers could then buy the option to sell account for gp.  But, in the end subs will get used on the accounts gaining rev revenue. The subs are purchased with url cash so as long as the subs get used and removed from market, players still buy more from the site. Rev loses nothing. If anything they would gain from the new chars being subbed to train and sale. In the end rev would make more money by allowing it.

Needs to be the price of gold and plat sub worth of $ or its a lose for Rev.

~K!zL

Getting more players to play and getting more people to train accounts = buy more subs, i wouldn't count that as a loss. Anyways, that's why i said the process of selling an account should cost sub/subs, works out for everyone..

Getting more players to play and getting more people to train accounts = buy more subs, i wouldn't count that as a loss. Anyways, that's why i said the process of selling an account should cost sub/subs, works out for everyone..

Let's say you're right and TONS of people start creating accounts to sell and everyone wants to buy them.

What fool would continue to buy Subs to transfer accounts, when they could simply create a separate Forum for each account they create and simply give the buyer the Forum account, sub-free.

That's why there needs to be a transferring system in place to do it all automatically.

It isn't going to happen. I explained why. It makes sense too, even though I'd personally like to be able to buy a few PKers to save me hassle training, the fact I can't just buy them makes me sub, train and be online if I want a new account. And that's what Staff wants.

100% this

~K!zL