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Walking and casting is fine and always has been, shows who can cast and who can't, even though it's pretty smooth and easier to do in here than any other server.


First one to think this is a good idea. Yeah dont see the "whos good and whos not". How fucking hard is it to mage and click ahead. Its not like the one being chased can change direction or the map will cut and the distance will be less than 2 squares. Requires zero skill.

Well yeah here its pretty easy and u dont stop whilst doing it, but ive always liked it and so has other pkers. Pretty much the ones disagreeing with it are usually the ones who can't do it as good as other people. Also prevents someone from logging away from you, annoying as fuck when someone just comes to shoot u and run away and repeat then log out, has its pros n cons

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Jauro2 said:

Wild Patrol said:

Jauro2 said:

Walking and casting is fine and always has been, shows who can cast and who can't, even though it's pretty smooth and easier to do in here than any other server.


First one to think this is a good idea. Yeah dont see the "whos good and whos not". How fucking hard is it to mage and click ahead. Its not like the one being chased can change direction or the map will cut and the distance will be less than 2 squares. Requires zero skill.

Well yeah here its pretty easy and u dont stop whilst doing it, but ive always liked it and so has other pkers. Pretty much the ones disagreeing with it are usually the ones who can't do it as good as other people. Also prevents someone from logging away from you, annoying as fuck when someone just comes to shoot u and run away and repeat then log out, has its pros n cons

See thats where you go wrong. Its not something that "someone cant do". Anyone can.

The reason to disagree with it coz it favors bad PKers who cant catch and big teams obviously. Its bad for PKers who try to PK solo/outnumbered. The logging part is all part of the game, to punish people who cant catch. About maging and logging out, maybe make it not possible to log out if YOU have maged/ranged someone in the last 10 seconds.

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Jauro2 said:

Wild Patrol said:

Jauro2 said:

Walking and casting is fine and always has been, shows who can cast and who can't, even though it's pretty smooth and easier to do in here than any other server.


First one to think this is a good idea. Yeah dont see the "whos good and whos not". How fucking hard is it to mage and click ahead. Its not like the one being chased can change direction or the map will cut and the distance will be less than 2 squares. Requires zero skill.

Well yeah here its pretty easy and u dont stop whilst doing it, but ive always liked it and so has other pkers. Pretty much the ones disagreeing with it are usually the ones who can't do it as good as other people. Also prevents someone from logging away from you, annoying as fuck when someone just comes to shoot u and run away and repeat then log out, has its pros n cons

Only benefits people closer to the server. People living further lose squares.

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tadas said:

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First one to think this is a good idea. Yeah dont see the "whos good and whos not". How fucking hard is it to mage and click ahead. Its not like the one being chased can change direction or the map will cut and the distance will be less than 2 squares. Requires zero skill.

Well yeah here its pretty easy and u dont stop whilst doing it, but ive always liked it and so has other pkers. Pretty much the ones disagreeing with it are usually the ones who can't do it as good as other people. Also prevents someone from logging away from you, annoying as fuck when someone just comes to shoot u and run away and repeat then log out, has its pros n cons

Only benefits people closer to the server. People living further lose squares.

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You can logout while running.

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Pking is dead because most of the time you get ganged up on. Not ganged up by enemy friends or whatever, but people who log onto multiple accounts to kill one person.
If we’re to consider the future of pking for this server, how many new players want to log in and go PK only to find one user logs on 2-4 chars to take them down?
Yes there’ll be those who say “make friends and go pk” “go 1 ip zones” “create multiple accounts yourself”
This was never a thing in real RSC, it TBH has ruined pking. I understand that 1 IP in wilderness was global at once, but this free IP (western wild) ain’t working. For those who even pk or consider pking, all you see in death logs/kill feed are the same 10-15 people...

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Pking is dead because most of the time you get ganged up on. Not ganged up by enemy friends or whatever, but people who log onto multiple accounts to kill one person.
If we’re to consider the future of pking for this server, how many new players want to log in and go PK only to find one user logs on 2-4 chars to take them down?
Yes there’ll be those who say “make friends and go pk” “go 1 ip zones” “create multiple accounts yourself”
This was never a thing in real RSC, it TBH has ruined pking. I understand that 1 IP in wilderness was global at once, but this free IP (western wild) ain’t working. For those who even pk or consider pking, all you see in death logs/kill feed are the same 10-15 people...

But then again how you expect someone to defend themselves on 1IP whilst pking solo against multiple people? There is nothing you could do. Multi isn't the problem, multi is what keeps the pking somewhat alive, you get 1 war a day and that would last 5mins with 1ip, with multi it can go on for hours. Usually the enemies will just back off until they get more and can outnumber u more. theres like 40 pkers left in the whole scene who try and keep it active, the problem is half of these pussies wont fight you until they have 10 friends with them because they're too scared to lose some _pixels_

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Jauro2 said:

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Pking is dead because most of the time you get ganged up on. Not ganged up by enemy friends or whatever, but people who log onto multiple accounts to kill one person.
If we’re to consider the future of pking for this server, how many new players want to log in and go PK only to find one user logs on 2-4 chars to take them down?
Yes there’ll be those who say “make friends and go pk” “go 1 ip zones” “create multiple accounts yourself”
This was never a thing in real RSC, it TBH has ruined pking. I understand that 1 IP in wilderness was global at once, but this free IP (western wild) ain’t working. For those who even pk or consider pking, all you see in death logs/kill feed are the same 10-15 people...

But then again how you expect someone to defend themselves on 1IP whilst pking solo against multiple people? There is nothing you could do. Multi isn't the problem, multi is what keeps the pking somewhat alive, you get 1 war a day and that would last 5mins with 1ip, with multi it can go on for hours. Usually the enemies will just back off until they get more and can outnumber u more. theres like 40 pkers left in the whole scene who try and keep it active, the problem is half of these pussies wont fight you until they have 10 friends with them because they're too scared to lose some _pixels_


It still doesn’t help the future of this server. If you need “someone to defend you”, that means you’re working on an alternate account, you already have a main account set up. Protecting your own account in the Wild was never a thing in classic RS

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Aegis002 said:

Jauro2 said:

Aegis002 said:

Pking is dead because most of the time you get ganged up on. Not ganged up by enemy friends or whatever, but people who log onto multiple accounts to kill one person.
If we’re to consider the future of pking for this server, how many new players want to log in and go PK only to find one user logs on 2-4 chars to take them down?
Yes there’ll be those who say “make friends and go pk” “go 1 ip zones” “create multiple accounts yourself”
This was never a thing in real RSC, it TBH has ruined pking. I understand that 1 IP in wilderness was global at once, but this free IP (western wild) ain’t working. For those who even pk or consider pking, all you see in death logs/kill feed are the same 10-15 people...

But then again how you expect someone to defend themselves on 1IP whilst pking solo against multiple people? There is nothing you could do. Multi isn't the problem, multi is what keeps the pking somewhat alive, you get 1 war a day and that would last 5mins with 1ip, with multi it can go on for hours. Usually the enemies will just back off until they get more and can outnumber u more. theres like 40 pkers left in the whole scene who try and keep it active, the problem is half of these pussies wont fight you until they have 10 friends with them because they're too scared to lose some _pixels_


It still doesn’t help the future of this server. If you need “someone to defend you”, that means you’re working on an alternate account, you already have a main account set up. Protecting your own account in the Wild was never a thing in classic RS

90% of what  this server is was never a thing in RSC. Y'all gotta stop trying to replicate RSC to the state it was 16 years ago so hard, and yet still have no problem with all these Rs2 features. There was thousands of unique players pking in classic. You didn't need multi to PK, the situation is way different these days. Probably past 8 years, it has been 95% the SAME people playing on/off these servers keeping the pking alive, few fresh faces come and go every now and then. I have no problem pking with just 1 account, but 1 IP will just kill the server, trust me. It's happened before on Rev, on turnip, legacy, every server that has tried it. The end result always has been the pkers who keep the scene alive quitting and going to other servers, and the staff realizing they made a mistake and they'll revert back to no ip limits, usually it's too late. Sorry but that's just how it is these days, i miss the days myself when you could just login on your account and find action anywhere you went, but you gotta face that this is a dying game and probably wont have many years left and you just have to adapt.

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Jauro2 said:

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But then again how you expect someone to defend themselves on 1IP whilst pking solo against multiple people? There is nothing you could do. Multi isn't the problem, multi is what keeps the pking somewhat alive, you get 1 war a day and that would last 5mins with 1ip, with multi it can go on for hours. Usually the enemies will just back off until they get more and can outnumber u more. theres like 40 pkers left in the whole scene who try and keep it active, the problem is half of these pussies wont fight you until they have 10 friends with them because they're too scared to lose some _pixels_


It still doesn’t help the future of this server. If you need “someone to defend you”, that means you’re working on an alternate account, you already have a main account set up. Protecting your own account in the Wild was never a thing in classic RS

90% of what  this server is was never a thing in RSC. Y'all gotta stop trying to replicate RSC to the state it was 16 years ago so hard, and yet still have no problem with all these Rs2 features. There was thousands of unique players pking in classic. You didn't need multi to PK, the situation is way different these days. Probably past 8 years, it has been 95% the SAME people playing on/off these servers keeping the pking alive, few fresh faces come and go every now and then. I have no problem pking with just 1 account, but 1 IP will just kill the server, trust me. It's happened before on Rev, on turnip, legacy, every server that has tried it. The end result always has been the pkers who keep the scene alive quitting and going to other servers, and the staff realizing they made a mistake and they'll revert back to no ip limits, usually it's too late. Sorry but that's just how it is these days, i miss the days myself when you could just login on your account and find action anywhere you went, but you gotta face that this is a dying game and probably wont have many years left and you just have to adapt.


I agree on some of your points, however, the current state it is in it is STILL dying. With RSC shutting down next month, rscr should take a deep look into this server especially pking.
Also, why would people prefer multi log ins in wildly? To gang up? To scout?

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Aegis002 said:

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It still doesn’t help the future of this server. If you need “someone to defend you”, that means you’re working on an alternate account, you already have a main account set up. Protecting your own account in the Wild was never a thing in classic RS

90% of what  this server is was never a thing in RSC. Y'all gotta stop trying to replicate RSC to the state it was 16 years ago so hard, and yet still have no problem with all these Rs2 features. There was thousands of unique players pking in classic. You didn't need multi to PK, the situation is way different these days. Probably past 8 years, it has been 95% the SAME people playing on/off these servers keeping the pking alive, few fresh faces come and go every now and then. I have no problem pking with just 1 account, but 1 IP will just kill the server, trust me. It's happened before on Rev, on turnip, legacy, every server that has tried it. The end result always has been the pkers who keep the scene alive quitting and going to other servers, and the staff realizing they made a mistake and they'll revert back to no ip limits, usually it's too late. Sorry but that's just how it is these days, i miss the days myself when you could just login on your account and find action anywhere you went, but you gotta face that this is a dying game and probably wont have many years left and you just have to adapt.


I agree on some of your points, however, the current state it is in it is STILL dying. With RSC shutting down next month, rscr should take a deep look into this server especially pking.
Also, why would people prefer multi log ins in wildly? To gang up? To scout?

I like to multi in a war where everyone else is pretty much multi logging also so the action doesn't stop as quick as it would, or when im fighting alone against multiple people ( which is how i always have to pk to get some action ) Unfortunately, there is alot of players who don't give fair fights or 1v1s and they will gangbang new players who only have 1 account and they have absolutely no chance to do anything but die. I know this is very frustrating to new players or the ones without accounts, but it's really really hard to come up with a perfect solution for this, many servers have tried and no1 has succeeded. Only fix to this is pkers changing their attitude and how they act, sadly, that's probably never going to happen..

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Multi log to defeat other multi users? Isn’t that just a counter balance to a problem that resulted from allowance of multi log?
Yes, i agree some of the pkers are toxic and talks trash, i actually don’t get why cause RSC is such an old game and pretty much requires no skills compared to other RPGS out there.
I think the current state is that the wildly is too one sided and stacked against new players

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Multi log to defeat other multi users? Isn’t that just a counter balance to a problem that resulted from allowance of multi log?
Yes, i agree some of the pkers are toxic and talks trash, i actually don’t get why cause RSC is such an old game and pretty much requires no skills compared to other RPGS out there.
I think the current state is that the wildly is too one sided and stacked against new players

Multi isn't the problem. Pkers are the problem.

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Gotta agree with what jauro said pkers are the problem. Even back in RSC when the average age of players was probably 12-15 kids didnt act this scared/noobish. Dont want to mention names but you know who the trashtalkers and gangbangers are. Doesnt matter if its multi vs 1 or running with a huge team every time you enter wild. Funny how to he best pkers never do that shit. Biggest teams have and will always be noobs.

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Jauro2 said:

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Pking is dead because most of the time you get ganged up on. Not ganged up by enemy friends or whatever, but people who log onto multiple accounts to kill one person.
If we’re to consider the future of pking for this server, how many new players want to log in and go PK only to find one user logs on 2-4 chars to take them down?
Yes there’ll be those who say “make friends and go pk” “go 1 ip zones” “create multiple accounts yourself”
This was never a thing in real RSC, it TBH has ruined pking. I understand that 1 IP in wilderness was global at once, but this free IP (western wild) ain’t working. For those who even pk or consider pking, all you see in death logs/kill feed are the same 10-15 people...

But then again how you expect someone to defend themselves on 1IP whilst pking solo against multiple people? There is nothing you could do. Multi isn't the problem, multi is what keeps the pking somewhat alive, you get 1 war a day and that would last 5mins with 1ip, with multi it can go on for hours. Usually the enemies will just back off until they get more and can outnumber u more. theres like 40 pkers left in the whole scene who try and keep it active, the problem is half of these pussies wont fight you until they have 10 friends with them because they're too scared to lose some _pixels_


This really stops any kind of growth for the pking scene, any new players who have spent time making a char to find that they will be 4v1'ed (most of the time by 1 person) will log out and never return. It's great to see new players but 90% of them don't stay long due to being smashed by multi.

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I've been multied against 8v1 (2 unique) easily. I play on Android and can't compete with that. Max I can log in is 2 chars split screen. It's not easy to pk split on Droid. The center bar often fks me up.

I'm fine with the rest of the stuff either way but Droid shouldn't be punished "because it was always a PC game" when more people play on Droid than PC. Some Droid players switch to PC just to pk. Some of us prefer not to do that. The game should be a level playing field regardless of device. If all Droid users quit, it'd be a ghost town. Droid is the reason I left turnip to join Rev years ago. Hopefully more Droid users respond to this.

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I've been multied against 8v1 (2 unique) easily. I play on Android and can't compete with that. Max I can log in is 2 chars split screen. It's not easy to pk split on Droid. The center bar often fks me up.

I'm fine with the rest of the stuff either way but Droid shouldn't be punished "because it was always a PC game" when more people play on Droid than PC. Some Droid players switch to PC just to pk. Some of us prefer not to do that. The game should be a level playing field regardless of device. If all Droid users quit, it'd be a ghost town. Droid is the reason I left turnip to join Rev years ago. Hopefully more Droid users respond to this.

I meant 8vs1 from 1 unique. So people are saying multi is the problem. I see. I personally havent bwen multied much pking flats. Its more like bunch of noobs who never pk with 2 or less lol. Like you can be sure as hell if you see a certain name 5 of his friends will show up followed by trashtalk instead of being ashamed for being bad/terrible/lack of respect/trolls/lamers whatever you wanna call it. So pretty much the players have ruined pking.

And fix the god damn maging and running already! Favors teams bad pkers and good connections. Will be spamming here till its fixed. Most people agree.

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Wild Patrol said:

Its more like bunch of noobs who never pk with 2 or less lol. Like you can be sure as hell if you see a certain name 5 of his friends will show up followed by trashtalk instead of being ashamed for being bad/terrible/lack of respect/trolls/lamers whatever you wanna call it. So pretty much the players have ruined pking.

The problem is in the past 2 months that's everyone, everyone on voice and you attack anyone another 5 are there in seconds. It's made it much less fun but everyones doing it now.

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nyx6 said:

Wild Patrol said:

Its more like bunch of noobs who never pk with 2 or less lol. Like you can be sure as hell if you see a certain name 5 of his friends will show up followed by trashtalk instead of being ashamed for being bad/terrible/lack of respect/trolls/lamers whatever you wanna call it. So pretty much the players have ruined pking.

The problem is in the past 2 months that's everyone, everyone on voice and you attack anyone another 5 are there in seconds. It's made it much less fun but everyones doing it now.


Sad. Thats not really pking tho. Any ideas how to make it better... it was decent 2 years ago.

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People are just way more organised not fixable