Well, Its not like I looked at the coding... but from the rsc wiki:

Thug - nature runes are common drops; now they aren't even possible.

Pirate - air, fire, earth, nature runes are common; here they are either rare or (nature) is not dropped.

Chaos druid - nature, chaos runes are uncommon; now they are rare.

Rogue - can be pickpocketed for air runes; but not now.

These are just a few I've noticed. It's a semi common theme though (mostly with lower level mobs). Is the wiki wrong? Or... what?

Just go kill demons? Otherworldly beings like demons drop quite a lot of runes. I wouldn't cry about this. Would be stupid if you could just farm tons of thugs to get tons of runes, instead you're now forced to kill something bigger with bit more effort.

+1 buff drops

Fixing what should be dropped is needed yes, however saying it prevents lower levels from getting magic is not valid in the least.

It does however depend on what level of magic you mean.  99..sure that's expensive for anyone..but then again 99 of anything except att, def, str, hp should be as they are actual skills, not afkable (fishing excluded..thats just ez-mode once you hit lvl 65), and also 99 is not designed for "lower levels"

I did some rough head math using the lowest level spells (not changing every 10 levels or so for more xp per cast) - based on outside of wild, non skulled, non subbed)
Wind strike to wind bolt to fire bolt to wind blast to either high level alcy, or wind blast to camelot tele then to high level alcy

It was something like (just tossing base prices out there, chaos runes about 20-30gp each, deaths 250gp, laws 120-150)
Wind staff 1500gp
140ish chaos runes about 8-12k
Death runes, either ~130 to camelot tele then like 300 law runes to high alcy for 40-50k
or
Death runes ~400 to 55 magic ~100k
Total cost = between 40-60k first method, or 110-120k second.

it costs (buying from AH) between 40-100k depending what route you take to reach lvl 55 for high level alcy, then yeah it just gets a bit expensive for natures, but if you were already leveling up to flats you should have been farming/collecting runes anyways have have a lot, plus can sell other mats

You can easily get 100k just killing men and getting herbs, or collect vials in trav/ardy, or mine ore and sell, or logs, or flax, etc etc. 

tl:dr
cost to get magic at low level is pretty much non existent.  Can easily get it to 55 with maybe an hour or two of work (don't be a lazy bum), however +1 for fixing drops so they replicate RSC (unless otherwise removed due to additional npc spawns) should be addressed where needed.

So you're saying farming runes by killing mobs is for low levels?

Never once said that...

Did say and i quote "but if you were already leveling up to flats you should have been farming/collecting runes anyways have have a lot, plus can sell other mats"

What about those who want to do mage pures?

If you are trying to do a mage pure as your first char...You're an idiot plain and simple.

First char should always be a flat/main who gets mats/money/gear/items for your pure, be it a range pure, f2p hybrid pure, p2p hybrid pure etc etc.

You can get to 55 magic in an hour or two? Huh? It's like you have forgotten what it's like playing this game without any gp.

Um..no I started with nothing, after lots of work, LOTS of clues (over 4000) i have tons and tons of crap

Now i can trade over a hundred or two runes  and it takes maybe 30 minutes of clicking if that. Problem most people are plain lazy and don't want to put any work or effort into it.  One of the main problems with pay2win games that are out now a days, everyone wants instant gratification.

Maybe this confused you "Can easily get it to 55 with maybe an hour or two of work" clarification on Work IE farming herbs, collecting vials, etc (actually casting the magic is about 30 minutes, least thats roughly how long it took my guy i did 2-3 weeks ago).

Pretty easy to make money on this server ""You can easily get 100k just killing men and getting herbs, or collect vials in trav/ardy, or mine ore and sell, or logs, or flax, etc etc.  "

How is a new player going to farm runes, to raise magic, by killing mobs, to make a mage, without being rich or strong to get the runes in the first place?

Make a main?...Pretty much how every game out there has ever worked, you start out with a flat/main/money maker and make alts with specific builds.

""You can easily get 100k just killing men and getting herbs, or collect vials in trav/ardy, or mine ore and sell, or logs, or flax, etc etc.  "

That being said, my primary point is: that rscr seems to not be consistent with rsc drops (which you agree with).

Primary point is the only valid one, secondary about magic doesnt hold water. If it truly is off, it should be fix but not because magic is difficult to level up, only if changed due to increase of mobs = flooding of said item if it were not modified/reduced

I honestly never noticed or thought drops were nerfed compared to RSC.  Probably did not cross my mind, due to xp rates being so high, so i expected less drops, as less monsters are being killed for levels.

However, as Billy replied, he will most certainly compare drops and make sure things are correct.  I can also help, as I have a classic character to log on and test as well.

I honestly never noticed or thought drops were nerfed compared to RSC.  Probably did not cross my mind, due to xp rates being so high, so i expected less drops, as less monsters are being killed for levels.

However, as Billy replied, he will most certainly compare drops and make sure things are correct.  I can also help, as I have a classic character to log on and test as well.

But why does the drops have to be exactly same as real RSC, when theres so many different things on here? I was trying to farm the higher level monsters ( kbd, black demons, fire giants) and they're not even worth farming

It's great to know that everyone who doesn't know the game as well as you is an idiot.

Get off your high horse man. You haven't disproved my point. Getting runes is harder when the drops are nerfed.

Just because you can still obtain many runes with your money, high combat level, your brilliant mind, accompanied by your overwhelming rsc experience, doesn't mean runes are just as easy to obtain when these lower level mobs drops are nerfed.

Especially if people are not as smart or as experienced as you. /s

I'm really going to have to side with Recon on this one. You're saying that magic is inaccessible unless you're high level or rich? You can level up to flat 70s and farm fire giants/dragons to get ridiculous amounts of runes within a week or so from level 1. Or you can take the easier route and just focus on making money right off the bat, then buy runes.

I also started from nothing, as did almost everyone on this server. If you're in dire need of runes at low levels, the answer is not to farm mobs that drop runes or try to get the mods to upgrade rune drops. The answer is to farm mobs that can make you good $$/hour and then use that money to buy runes, either from the shop or from players. If you're literally just starting - kill chickens, sell feathers, buy runes. Or kill men, sell unid herbs, buy runes. As Recon was pointing out, you could get 55 magic on a fresh account in a few hours if you plan strategically. I think that's pretty doable.

I'm not trying to be mean or anything, this is just what I honestly think. I've never heard of anyone else having this problem. If you really think people should just be able to make a mage pure from scratch with no money, then I would wholeheartedly disagree. Not to mention that farming runes while training your mage pure would be super difficult as you'd likely get too much xp in def/hits and throw off your combat lvl.

And I'd be curious to see some actual proof of how you've come to find that rune drops are nerfed here. Anecdotally, they seem virtually identical to me. But I haven't played original rsc in a while, so I might be wrong.

Lastly - if you are seriously in need of runes DM me in game and I'll give you some.

Well, thank you for your sincerity. I don't accuse anyone here of being mean.

I am not saying that acquiring runes is hard. I just thought it odd that these drops would be nerfed. I guess it kind of comes off as an advert way of nerfing mages by making acquiring runes harder. Which, to what I said initially, it only makes it harder for low levels or characters with no gp. Seeing the recent (necessary) nerf to mages made me think that was the reason.

Billy says otherwise though so I believe him.

But, I'm not claiming the drops are nerfed either (it was just a thought that I couldn't prove). I'm just asking for an account as to why the wiki says one thing and the rscr beastiary says another. Maybe they aren't. Maybe rscr's beastiary is wrong but the drops are actually consistent.

For example: go to the deep wilderness and pickpocket rogues and tell me how many air runes you get. I spent about 30-40 minutes there - 70 thieving- and didn't get any runes. Maybe they are a rare drop? I didn't get any.

http://runescapeclassic.wikia.com/wiki/Rogue

old thread, but came across it. as a ironman vet, leveling is much harder. Has this been fixed? struggling to find rune drops, and yes i could level up combat first, however as a vet this takes much more time. Would like more runes as a low level.