@Beatdown Maybe you could answer that about the afk farming places? Believe it was you who said you knew of places out of wild? I wouldn't care about the less xp, as it would = more in the long run. Fewer deaths and running back = more xp overall.
This would be for Flats farming 70+ characters
Pures with 1 Def
etc as my 1 def guy gets killed within 10-15 mins on the pirates.  My 3 flats (controlled lvling) can farm it seems up to lvl 40ish and do so for almost 200% fatigue (resting once its 100) before dying.

jungle spiders I think are good afk spots.

also what would happen with someone like myself? ive got 1k kills to my name and maybe all of 20-30 of them
are afk kills. yes I kill people in wild who are walking through unskulled but rarely go to someone who is
afk training. unless they are a homo.

I went to the jungle spiders on my 108 and they didn't attack me, the Jorge or w/e did, but its lvl 56 so that wouldn't work for a 1 def guy at least.

Good question
You keep them all.  Only change is going forward only kills that count towards the cape are skulled kills.  If say you had 300/500 for the current, you are still at 300.  Just the next 200 only count for skulled kills.  Plus the new cape (say its a green color same symbol?) will count those next 200 towards it as well.  Finish off getting 300 more skulled and you have the new pk skulled cape.

Questions:
But seriously, the moral of the story is don't try to take the easy way out of training when it is easy and faster because it comes with an inherent risk involved. This is how the wilderness has always worked. This is how the wilderness will continue to work. You are in it so you are able to be killed.

AFK killing, while annoying, is no more against the rules or troublesome to the community than parking multiple characters in the wilderness.

BINGO. 

The funniest part of this is beat trying to look like a white knight lol.  "I DONT KILL TRAINERS"  But I will gladly use 15 accounts to dispose of your 1 account whenever you are finished training.  lolol  This flawed logic is why pking never really takes off.

The reason I do it is because that's the only way you can ever hope to get a fair fight when roaming the wilderness solo.  You find a trainer who is "protecting" his account and boom you get a 1 v 1 fight, something that would never happen in 2000 years if you just went to the castle.

Yeah i've said it for a while now, the KD counter and now pk cape actively incentivises running around hunting trainers

yeah yeah, its the wild and dont train in wild if you dont want to die... but do we really need a system that actually encourages this behavior?
There are enough douchebags who will still run around hunting afkers without actually being rewarded for it on top of it

Ive always let trainers be (untill they fuck with mine) precisely because id much rather they actually finish making their characters so we can actually pk, rather than me just making them quit before they even get going, cause it already takes months just to get ready to pk without someone delaying it by another month on top of that

For sure, knowing you will get a cape (if you care about it) for getting 500 kills, you will go for the easiest kills: afk players.

Im not sure i understand the second point?  How does making them get nothing for a non skulled kill encourage it (other then if they are full geared, they only keep 3 items, so you get helm/legs)?  They should only then be actively seeking out those who skull WHILE afk farming as that is the only gain.

If someone wants to skull while farming, then they are fair game you get their loot + a pk point

I will gladly train out of wild if there is a place with always aggressive (level doesnt matter) that a 1 def guy can go to.

Just while writing this, had someone kill one of my farmers 5 times...Thats probably 100-200 kills i lost of XP right there from having to run back

--- What about a system that allows you to mark yourself "AFK" with a visible tag while in the wilderness. Once toggled on you will not count as a kill towards the PK cape, however you can still be attacked. "AFK" tag can only be toggled on once every 5 minutes to allow you to move for the logout timer, but if you move in-game you are automatically unflagged. It is critical that if this would be implemented you could still be attacked because if someone wanted to kill you for the spot then they should be able to.

My thought on that is a ::farming command that made you UNABLE to attack or be attacked for say 6 hours..Cant trade with people either so its a Temp iron man type thing.  That way you cant just enable it and disable it to quickly kill someone.  Once enabled you are stuck in a farming mode.

--- PK cape for only skulled kills... I have no problem with it. It could work.

yeah either way its a new addition, new challenge for those hardcore pkers

--- New AFK farming zone out of wilderness with always aggressive mobs? No. There are already always aggressive mobs. If you're asking for your 1 def characters then I don't know what to tell you other than get defense. The thing about training pures was that it was always a little more difficult. You had to train longer on smaller mobs that didn't hit you as much, or you had to spend extra food to keep from dying. You can't have it all.

Thats fare, i only have 1 guy with 1 def, rest have 30-40+ but even then hobgoblins and red spiders still kill me over time (since im in wild i only 3 item due to the afk killers, no food).

AFK killing, while annoying, is no more against the rules or troublesome to the community than parking multiple characters in the wilderness.

True, other then harassment haha but that would be stretching it a lot

My thought on that is a ::farming command that made you UNABLE to attack or be attacked for say 6 hours..Cant trade with people either so its a Temp iron man type thing.  That way you cant just enable it and disable it to quickly kill someone.  Once enabled you are stuck in a farming mode.

I think the unable to attack or be attacked thing may be taking it too far. It is the wilderness. The wilderness should be dangerous. If someone your level wants to come along and kill you for your spot so they can train they should be able to do so. It doesn't seem that it would be very fair if you could just go to a good spot in the wild, mark yourself AFK, and then basically have the spot to yourself for however many hours you are unattackable.

I still maintain that tagging yourself as AFK makes you worth zero PK points is the best, most fair option. So long as the AFK tag is very visible so people know there is nothing gained in killing you.

Perhaps even apply a penalty to killing someone with an AFK tag.

-1 PK point the first time?

-5 PK points for every subsequent kill of that person for the next 4 hours to deter them from farming you?

That way if they really insist on farming you for no reason then it will cost them a sizable amount of PK points. If they are willing to take that hit then they must just really not like you and they would have killed you regardless of circumstances.

My thought on that is a ::farming command that made you UNABLE to attack or be attacked for say 6 hours..Cant trade with people either so its a Temp iron man type thing.  That way you cant just enable it and disable it to quickly kill someone.  Once enabled you are stuck in a farming mode.

I think the unable to attack or be attacked thing may be taking it too far. It is the wilderness. The wilderness should be dangerous. If someone your level wants to come along and kill you for your spot so they can train they should be able to do so. It doesn't seem that it would be very fair if you could just go to a good spot in the wild, mark yourself AFK, and then basically have the spot to yourself for however many hours you are unattackable.

I still maintain that tagging yourself as AFK makes you worth zero PK points is the best, most fair option. So long as the AFK tag is very visible so people know there is nothing gained in killing you.

Perhaps even apply a penalty to killing someone with an AFK tag.

-1 PK point the first time?

-5 PK points for every subsequent kill of that person for the next 4 hours to deter them from farming you?

That way if they really insist on farming you for no reason then it will cost them a sizable amount of PK points. If they are willing to take that hit then they must just really not like you and they would have killed you regardless of circumstances.

Yeah maybe being invulnerable is too far.  Maybe you just cant start the attack but also don't count for anything (green skull above head)? but if they attack you you can re-attack for up to 1 minute (whatever time it is where you wont be skulled again).

The other option you listed seems pretty interesting.  Maybe when you toggle ::afk it takes a minute to go in so you cant just do it right before someone attacks you in case they 3 hit you?

You are in wild you get an xp boost for a reason. Even if ur 3items or not, ur in WILDY!!! Dont cry and complain about dieing  especially if you are 40 + def. There are plenty of out of wildy spots to train at, If ur 1 def u can ppot train if ur 40 def its easy to afk. WILDY is a PRIVLAGE not a RIGHT. Alot of us trained are accounts at a much slower xp rate and didnt complain. Stop crying to be catered on.

Thanks

P.S. Posting the same suggestion week after week goin get you nowhere man.

Your reading comprehension hasn't improved much.  Thanks for the input.

1. Don't care about dying. my k/d is like 2-200 because i don't care.  Just want to be able to train. Just trying to get my first flats (melee wise) ever.
2. Don't care about the boost as already stated. Would prefer some always aggressive mobs out of wild.
3. You can't stay in the same place out of wild as you out grow the mobs, they no longer attack.
4. Easy port back to (pirates right in front of edge after port).
5. 1 char was 1 def, note i did ask beat if he knew of some places, notice he gave some examples to help out?...Follow suite please.

Please explain how allowing/helping more people to lvl up so there are more people able to pk is a bad thing?
Also explain how it would negatively effect the server having a farming only zone?

The Farming aside there were two points, you missed the first.

if its TL:DR, there were two points made in the posts above.  Ill be brief just for you.

First: make a new Cape to show real skill (how is adding a new cape a bad idea?-Again you keep your old afk cape)

Second: AFK farming zone.

You are opposed to number 2 or any change. We get it, not everyone is as apparent in this post..its called brainstorming.

Make a legitimate reply to number one next, without resulting in attacks..Its a discussion.

Thanks,
-Noob