rscrevolution brought out 07scape because a large player based preferred it.

Very interesting interpretation

what else explains it? if it wasn't, why didnt they just revert the entire main game? use your head, seriously.

the majority of there players STILL play EOC.

Source?

at the time i start writing this post. main game has 85k players, and oldschool has 45k. nearly double on the game main, and is always like that. feel free to check www.rscrevolution.com as a source. kind of a stupid question really. how fucking hard is it to check?

Now if its been almost 10 years since they added a new top tier item dropping boss to the wilderness. why do you think that is so? quite simply its because its a BAD IDEA.

Source?

www.google.com look up every new big NPC rscrevolution has brought out since the chaos elemental. they all have there own liars, and arent located in the wilderness where you can be engaged in PvP. seriously, have you never heard of google?

you piss off your non PvP willing players, and the PvP'ers just gang up, and hoard the spot.

Where is the evidence to support this? What reasons do we have to believe any of the things you stated above?
I remember farming the chaos elemental and had none of these issues you're talking about.

Blue dragons by mage bank. when introduced, was camped by pkers, preventing all skillers from using it to gather and level prayer. even today you cant go more then maybe an hour TOPS without being engaged in combat with a pker.
Range guild. Scouts,camped accounts, none stop when it came out. nobody but the biggest team got to use it for a long time, and even today, its a big risk.
Hotspots and the revenant. This, up until the point i sort of stopped actively playing has for the majority of the time been under control of the massive team. and they will call as many as they have to, just to control it.
but hey, your new, and instantly know everything, so i must just be a fucking friend blowing air up your ass. seriously, sit the fuck down.

are you kidding me? players befriending each other is the EXACT REASON THE WILDERNESS IS DEAD. everyone is buddy buddy with each other, and now theres nobody to kill except a small group of players who refuse to join the circle jerk association of RSCR.

What I meant was temporarily teaming to secure a spot for themselves. This might not be how it plays out, but who cares, it's better than the current end game. We reach max level and log off when there's no pk because there is no end game.

There is no end game, because NOBODY IS WILLING TO ACCEPT NEW CONTENT TO THIS GAME. some 2 hour a week massive area where you can farm these "fragments" isnt end game. its going to do nothing to keep people logged in.

A. People are already bitching that the map/wilderness is to big for the current player base. B. you underestimate the douche baggery of the massive team on this server. they will just force the smaller groups out and take both spots.

So be it. What has happened to gamers these days? No one likes competition anymore, everyone wants it to be easy and fair. This is life son. Get over it.

You've clearly ran out of anything responsible to argue with. that is because there is no arguing with cold hard facts. this is life son, no everyone see's this as a great idea, and those who are in charge(fate and n0m) simply will not add something as stupid as this to the game. you might as well give up, they're logical thinkers who see the big picture. something you keep failing to see. get over it

Im against it because it accomplishes NOTHING. all its gonna do is give the massive team a better farming spot, and flood the market with crap that really doesnt need to be there.

The suggestion wasn't to make it easy. Did you even read the OP? In one whole inventory trip, you might get a fragment or two. Rather than talking about how to balance it, you sit here cherry picking negative things. You state that hitmachine is close minded - psychological projection??

LOL!!!!! so what is suppose to be the draw to this ridiculous area you are proposing? "you might get a fragment or two", yet you have to deal with big groups of pkers, and waste time and resources. might as well stick to dragons and fire giants in non wildy. better use of time, no hassle, and sounds like it will be better money in the long run. i know if i grind hard on dragons, i can make 10mill a day without having to venture into the wildy and deal with big groups. so again, whats to draw the "evil skillers who ruin pking" to this?

Whats the fucking point of even adding it if its going to have 2 hours of access a week? its not going to encourage pking by doing that. its going to do nothing what so ever to promote activity in the wilderness.

There will be people who don't have a friend to farm with (because these monsters are HARD) so they might choose to go around messing with others by attacking the rangers, etc.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. So fate and n0m are suppose to waste countless hours coding something, so for 2 hours a week a skiller can go mess with rangers for lols? brilliant idea!!! Why didnt i think of that!!!! jesus christ.

you want to keep throwing around insults and shit talk those who disagree with you, but you cant seem to realize that this idea is beyond flawed, and will result in literally nothing gained in both player activity or an increase in wilderness population.

I don't even know where you're getting this from. I haven't insulted anyone in this thread. I told one guy that I didn't want to discuss with him any more because I felt like it was going nowhere since we both had completely opposing views.

This must be your first time proposing an idea, but just like in the real world, this is how things get sorted out. idea's are brought up and people debate the pros and cons of them.

I've known hitmachine since 2007ish. there is no having a legitimate discussion with him. hes a closed minded individual who is only after instant gratification. much like yourself with this stupid easy farming fragment idea that isnt going to do shit to increase the wilderness activity. its just going to make getting supplies easier for a select group of nerds, and flood the economy with unnecessary supplies.

You are strange individual GLeU. You barely play the server and yet you're against (potential) updates. You won't even be online to participate (assuming this suggestion is implemented). I've also noticed you are on the front page of Cornflakes for top posters.
It's time to move on my friend.

You sit here insulting this cancerous community, yet you are doing nothing to fix it. In fact, you are contributing to the toxicity.
The last thing I will say in this thread - "No, GLeU. You are the demons."

EDIT: I put up an idea and encouraged everyone to contribute, and rather than everyone discussing and mending the idea into something everyone can benefit from, they chose to talk about how bad the community is and how stupid the idea was. It's time for reevaluation. "Be the change that you wish to see [in RSCR]"
Thanks to those who were civil enough to discuss, and presented valid reasons/points without resorting to insults.

you dont know me one bit. ive been advocating new content since the birth of private servers. not everything suggested is pure gold(like you seem to think this idea is). I maintain a full time career, play other games, and have a life to live as well. so no, i dont waste endless days on here, and often take breaks, sometimes for months at a time. that doesnt mean that my opinion counts for any less then yours. the work that i have put into this game i dont want to see gone to waste by the release of stupid updates that just ruin the game even more.

What does my post count on turnip have to do with anything?

Nobody can change this community without the higher up's taking a stance against it. me acting like a goody fucking tooshoes wont do shit until they do. ive tried it, and nothing changed, so fuck it.

I've known hitmachine since 2007ish. there is no having a legitimate discussion with him. hes a closed minded individual who is only after instant gratification. much like yourself with this stupid easy farming fragment idea that isnt going to do shit to increase the wilderness activity. its just going to make getting supplies easier for a select group of nerds, and flood the economy with unnecessary supplies.

If you are going to bring up our history together then let me remind everyone here that you were a botter on RSCD. I believe you and your team were banned for botting on RSCD, If I remember correctly I caught your mate botting under lava maze, this was after the final warning that was issued by Sgt. Watkins to you and your team for botting to 99 smithing.

Secondly, you say I'm closed minded? your the one who is not open to new ideas. It seems like your butt hurt and quit the server cause you got owned by PKers.

Lastly, do you even play this server? It seems your only here to hurt this server as you have a vested interest in RSCR's competitor. I noticed your a top poster on their forums too.

I've known hitmachine since 2007ish. there is no having a legitimate discussion with him. hes a closed minded individual who is only after instant gratification. much like yourself with this stupid easy farming fragment idea that isnt going to do shit to increase the wilderness activity. its just going to make getting supplies easier for a select group of nerds, and flood the economy with unnecessary supplies.

If you are going to bring up our history together then let me remind everyone here that you were a botter on RSCD. I believe you and your team were banned for botting on RSCD, If I remember correctly I caught your mate botting under lava maze, this was after the final warning that was issued by Sgt. Watkins to you and your team for botting to 99 smithing.

Secondly, you say I'm closed minded? your the one who is not open to new ideas. It seems like your butt hurt and quit the server cause you got owned by PKers.

Lastly, do you even play this server? It seems your only here to hurt this server as you have a vested interest in RSCR's competitor. I noticed your a top poster on their forums too.

I've NEVER botted. that was Angelo, not me, and after that shit he NEVER was allowed to access the smither/skiller on any future servers we played together.

Im always open to new idea's, but when i see a stupid, and pointless one. im going to say what i feel, and why.

Jack Oneill, Valvatorez, Gleus 123, Gleuismassiv, Fallon, Machamp, Gleuy, Prayer Queen, ffs hit, Madmartigan, Ranger Geek, Defense Mage, Prayer King, Zetta. feel free to see the last time i logged in on any of them. also literally none of these were trained during V2, but transfered from V1. but hey, im super invested in turnip.

Incase you dont know, i couldnt give a single fuck about turnip, fate and n0m both know that also.

EDIT: Updated original post.

Also, it would be cool to set respawn at the starting location which could also have a bank chest (and also more spacious than what the current prototype shows). It would be a "safe zone" where players can get their characters ready and as soon as you step out of the safe zone, it becomes a PVP zone. Perhaps on death (to another player) you don't lose your items, you simply spawn at the respawn point (start location) and you earn pk points for killing players as opposed to their items and these pk points can also be traded in for fragments/something.  - Not sure about this one, what do you guys think?

EDIT2: Perhaps we could forget about the whole idea of fragments and just make them drop the rewards that you would get from handing in a fragment. - I personally don't like this... opinions?