Way to increase PK


Player avatar

Cecelja Send PM

Member

Posts: 12

Hi everyone,

Firstly I apologize if this has been suggested before. I’m relatively new to the server and have noticed a lot of people complain about the lack of people PKing these days. I know mods are against players selling accounts to each other (for obvious reasons). My suggestion is that the server sell pre-made accounts with the same stats you get when you enter tournaments. F2P flat etc...

I think this would help in two ways:

1.) it would increase the number of these characters and the access people have to them. Rather than 30 people having 10 flats each, 300 people could have 1 flat. After starting about a month ago I’ve been working to create a flat, but due to a full time job, family, etc it takes some time and the idea of PKing at that level seems months out. I’ve already lived through the leveling experience circa 2000s so at this point in the games history I don’t think it would cheapen the game to sell high level accounts to people and allow them to skip the monotonous grinding (although this would still be required for resources of course).

2.) I think it could be a big revenue source for the server and help keep it going strong! I was happy to buy a sub card after seeing the server because I think the mods do a great job and I love rscrevolution classic!

Any feedback is welcome, thank you smile

Player avatar

xfermepoop Send PM

subscriber

Posts: 60

it has been suggested a million times, alongside other suggestions like PKer subs that give very high XP, or allowing players to sell each other accounts, but no unfortunately you have to grind grind grind if you want to PK on this server, since day 1 it's been like that ''it's unfair if people can pay to win'' ''it devalues peoples time spent on making their characters'' ''selling accounts is real world trading'' are some of the reasons given

there's just nothing being done to promote growth from my perspective, genuine new players can't get into PKing because it takes so long to build accounts, farm supplies, just to realize someone else has 20x amount of chars you have and 20x as big of a bank, players from competing servers don't want to grind again after having done it a million times, I read your whole post and it said you leveled in Circa 2000, honestly there's people on the scene who have done the same grind on 10-20 different servers as well as the real rscrevolution, many people infact,

if only there was a way for those people to actually have accounts without commiting all of their free time outside of work/family to a 19 year old 2d game with a dwindling community, hmmmm

Cecelja said:

I was happy to buy a sub card after seeing the server because I think the mods do a great job and I love rscrevolution classic!)

You aren't wrong, it's a well maintained server and all the staff do a good job,

but the server could be thriving by now if we hadn't spent years arguing amongst ourselves about the state of the wilderness, easy access to accounts should have been available the whole entire time. There would never have been a lack of PKing if it had already been implemented, might even be too late now

Last edited by xfermepoop (27 Jun 2019 13:49)


[img]https://i.imgur.com/CuVwd9w.png[/img]

Player avatar

Cecelja Send PM

Member

Posts: 12

Bummer hmm. Yeah I understand that, and I’m sure if I had done that grind multiple times since the 2000s too I’d be pissed if you could buy accounts all of a sudden. I do hate the pay to win mentality, but I suppose this is different as it’s more of a “tax” to enter. Perhaps people who have done the grind would even like the idea after initially being upset because there is fresh blood for them to PK haha. Thanks for the response and background on the issue, for now I will continue the grind!

Player avatar

Hungry Game Send PM

Member

Posts: 251

Yeah the grindin part of the game is unnecessary at this point. The last fort update drops to ground was a good one. It will boost pking but right now its summer and in some countries its the only time with good weather so people decide not to play. PK chars that cant level noncombat stats for everyone for a pricr of 1 subset a month/permanently would be perfect. Or something similar. You would be shocked to know how many flats there are in this server. The server does not need more people grinding chars just to PK. And youre right... many wont bother starting coz it takes forever to compete. And yet the ones with a lot of chars still grind every day to have even more chars.

Last edited by Hungry Game (27 Jun 2019 17:03)


Oprah:

Good call numb nuts, now the wilds more dead than ever. This is why the pkers shouldn't have an opinion. It's a skillers wild, the pkers are followers and always have been. They log in for 30 mins a day and if there isn't any pk it's more like 5 mins. Let the great ideas come from the people who play the game for hours.

Player avatar

Jauroo Send PM

Member

Posts: 275

xfermepoop said:

it has been suggested a million times, alongside other suggestions like PKer subs that give very high XP, or allowing players to sell each other accounts, but no unfortunately you have to grind grind grind if you want to PK on this server, since day 1 it's been like that ''it's unfair if people can pay to win'' ''it devalues peoples time spent on making their characters'' ''selling accounts is real world trading'' are some of the reasons given

there's just nothing being done to promote growth from my perspective, genuine new players can't get into PKing because it takes so long to build accounts, farm supplies, just to realize someone else has 20x amount of chars you have and 20x as big of a bank, players from competing servers don't want to grind again after having done it a million times, I read your whole post and it said you leveled in Circa 2000, honestly there's people on the scene who have done the same grind on 10-20 different servers as well as the real rscrevolution, many people infact,

if only there was a way for those people to actually have accounts without commiting all of their free time outside of work/family to a 19 year old 2d game with a dwindling community, hmmmm

Cecelja said:

I was happy to buy a sub card after seeing the server because I think the mods do a great job and I love rscrevolution classic!)

You aren't wrong, it's a well maintained server and all the staff do a good job,

but the server could be thriving by now if we hadn't spent years arguing amongst ourselves about the state of the wilderness, easy access to accounts should have been available the whole entire time. There would never have been a lack of PKing if it had already been implemented, might even be too late now

Couldn't put it any better than this, sadly some people just don't and won't realize it hmm RSC is a game that will continue dying, it's not going to get a new and more active playerbase, unless it's the old players from the scene returning and most of the people are in their late 20s early 30s and have an hour here and there to play and just won't have the time for the grind that is needed that they once had. Shit has taken too long and it will be hard as fuck to get the old playerbase back nowadays, not just the old rev players, but the players in general, and past year i've only seen Pkers quit, not return, and at this state that's how it's going to continue 100%  but however, past 2 days there has atleast been some action when i've logged in to check

Last edited by Jauroo (27 Jun 2019 17:49)

Player avatar

Cecelja Send PM

Member

Posts: 12

Couldn't put it any better than this, sadly some people just don't and won't realize it hmm RSC is a game that will continue dying, it's not going to get a new and more active playerbase, unless it's the old players from the scene returning and most of the people are in their late 20s early 30s and have an hour here and there to play and just won't have the time for the grind that is needed that they once had. Shit has taken too long and it will be hard as fuck to get the old playerbase back nowadays, not just the old rev players, but the players in general, and past year i've only seen Pkers quit, not return, and at this state that's how it's going to continue 100%  but however, past 2 days there has atleast been some action when i've logged in to check

I’m sure I’m in the vast, vast minority, but I’m someone who is completely new. I haven’t played RSC since the original shut down, and happened to find this on a google search. The thought just popped into my mind like “oh man that would be cool if someone has made a private server” and I found this. I definitely fall into that demographic though, late 20s, full time engineer working a lot of hours, and married. An hour a day isn’t even promised. That’s why I think bridging that gap could help. No doubt a 19 year old game will never thrive again, but don’t lose hope! If anyone else is like me there’s still potential for a small player base being added. Nostalgia is a strong drug haha.

Player avatar

Synbios Send PM

subscriber

Posts: 406

Yeah guys there's so many points to hit on that don't make sense.

If you limit character selling to PK based stats (In other words, disallow accounts with high skill total) you would only make extra money for the server by charging a sub set to make the transaction. Someone will buy a subset to train it most of the time, and then another to sell it so they can make maybe 3-5M profit from the sale. That's two sub sets, where you would of only sold one sub set had the purchaser bought a set and trained the account themselves.

Also the fact that there are tons of PK characters idling, that will never generate a dime for the server. If these could be sold that's basically $15 apiece (sub set) which will add up quickly. If you do the math and apply common sense, it's easy to see that it is guaranteed win-win. I mean, do what you want to with this as it doesn't affect me at all, I'm just trying to help the server and the PKers that have a real life and don't have time to grind this shit for the thousandth time.


As far as the people complaining about "pay to win".....are you serious? These characters are restricted to wilderness only. They can't farm items/GP, be on highscores, or compete with you in any way. Ok, so someone is out in the wilderness with a "pay to win" account while you're busy skilling and enjoying the game the way you like it. Is that going to affect you in any negative way? Nope. You won't even know it.

Player avatar

Synbios Send PM

subscriber

Posts: 406

Cecelja said:

Couldn't put it any better than this, sadly some people just don't and won't realize it hmm RSC is a game that will continue dying, it's not going to get a new and more active playerbase, unless it's the old players from the scene returning and most of the people are in their late 20s early 30s and have an hour here and there to play and just won't have the time for the grind that is needed that they once had. Shit has taken too long and it will be hard as fuck to get the old playerbase back nowadays, not just the old rev players, but the players in general, and past year i've only seen Pkers quit, not return, and at this state that's how it's going to continue 100%  but however, past 2 days there has atleast been some action when i've logged in to check

I’m sure I’m in the vast, vast minority, but I’m someone who is completely new. I haven’t played RSC since the original shut down, and happened to find this on a google search. The thought just popped into my mind like “oh man that would be cool if someone has made a private server” and I found this. I definitely fall into that demographic though, late 20s, full time engineer working a lot of hours, and married. An hour a day isn’t even promised. That’s why I think bridging that gap could help. No doubt a 19 year old game will never thrive again, but don’t lose hope! If anyone else is like me there’s still potential for a small player base being added. Nostalgia is a strong drug haha.

Welcome to the server bro, good to see people like you finding this game. I PKed hardcore from late 2001 to early 2003. Didn't make any real PK builds, but my main was 84 82 91 85 @ 102 CB lvl and I kicked a lot of ass as most people were lvl 70-90 in mid 2002.

Player avatar

KizL Send PM

betasubscriber

From: Seattle
Posts: 4,660

Have a set stat world 2 that's full f2p. Boom fixed.

Skillers keep their p2p world pkers get theirs.

YES they'd be linked together.



~K!zL


IGN: Alerion, No Mercy, Attila and KizL
[img]http://i.imgur.com/fkgmebI.png[/img]
UP and Subscribe to RSCRevolution on Reddit!
----> RSCRevolution's Reddit ----> RSCRevolution Facebook

Player avatar

Hungry Game Send PM

Member

Posts: 251

E N K O said:

Hungry Game said:

You would be shocked to know how many flats there are in this server.

Currently 1165 flats on hi-score,  judging by hitpoints hi-score.

+just as many hidden chars.


Oprah:

Good call numb nuts, now the wilds more dead than ever. This is why the pkers shouldn't have an opinion. It's a skillers wild, the pkers are followers and always have been. They log in for 30 mins a day and if there isn't any pk it's more like 5 mins. Let the great ideas come from the people who play the game for hours.

Player avatar

KizL Send PM

betasubscriber

From: Seattle
Posts: 4,660

Rune crafting also would greatly reduce the price of runes and help pking.



~K!zL


IGN: Alerion, No Mercy, Attila and KizL
[img]http://i.imgur.com/fkgmebI.png[/img]
UP and Subscribe to RSCRevolution on Reddit!
----> RSCRevolution's Reddit ----> RSCRevolution Facebook