I agree. I do not doubt that this is happening as the unfair advantage from casting easier might be too good to pass up for PC users.

Anyways it is possible to fingerprint users by using Android's API. The following methods under the BUILD class can be used to identify a users phone type, manufacturer, Android version, etc. ( https://developer.android.com/reference … d/os/Build )

I am sure the information returned by these methods can be spoofed by the simulation software used. However, this is probably a step in the right direction.

Here is a very hacky/hardcoded solution found on stack overflow to detect Google emulator users:

public static boolean isEmulator() {
    return Build.FINGERPRINT.startsWith("generic")
            || Build.FINGERPRINT.startsWith("unknown")
            || Build.MODEL.contains("google_sdk")
            || Build.MODEL.contains("Emulator")
            || Build.MODEL.contains("Android SDK built for x86")
            || Build.MANUFACTURER.contains("Genymotion")
            || (Build.BRAND.startsWith("generic") && Build.DEVICE.startsWith("generic"))
            || "google_sdk".equals(Build.PRODUCT);
}

Using this function might not be the right way to go. Instead the proper solution is probably to store what the methods return into the snapshot database of each user. Later on, if cheating is suspected, mods can investigate these snapshots.

I found humans alt

Why do you never have anything productive to say?

I don't know anyone doing this, but why would you consider this is bannable or something? Android users have a huge advantage when it comes to staking over PC players, it's basically stake botting what they do, can switch modes and items at the same time, same whilst they're DM'ing, they can lock the cast screen or w.e and inventory screen and can pretty much eat and cast without missing which is a huge advantage, if someone were able to do it on PC it'd only be fair in my opinion.

Exactly, just add the options to PC version too.

~K!zL

I don't know anyone doing this, but why would you consider this is bannable or something? Android users have a huge advantage when it comes to staking over PC players, it's basically stake botting what they do, can switch modes and items at the same time, same whilst they're DM'ing, they can lock the cast screen or w.e and inventory screen and can pretty much eat and cast without missing which is a huge advantage, if someone were able to do it on PC it'd only be fair in my opinion.

Allowing this on PC would make multiers nearly unstoppable. I do agree that android users have a casting advantage. However, that casting advantage is to make up for the disadvantages of playing on Android (harder right clicking, smaller screen makes accurate clicks/taps difficult, very hard to multi effectively).

How would it make any difference to multi if you can only cast one on client? It just makes it 2 actions to cast instead of 3, yes there's less distance for the mouse to move to cast but that doesn't make multilogging easy, multi is actually quite difficult

I don't know anyone doing this, but why would you consider this is bannable or something? Android users have a huge advantage when it comes to staking over PC players, it's basically stake botting what they do, can switch modes and items at the same time, same whilst they're DM'ing, they can lock the cast screen or w.e and inventory screen and can pretty much eat and cast without missing which is a huge advantage, if someone were able to do it on PC it'd only be fair in my opinion.

Allowing this on PC would make multiers nearly unstoppable. I do agree that android users have a casting advantage. However, that casting advantage is to make up for the disadvantages of playing on Android (harder right clicking, smaller screen makes accurate clicks/taps difficult, very hard to multi effectively).

How would it make any difference to multi if you can only cast one on client? It just makes it 2 actions to cast instead of 3, yes there's less distance for the mouse to move to cast but that doesn't make multilogging easy, multi is actually quite difficult

That's exactly my point. Having one less action required on one client will allow you to use the time saved to manage your other characters a lot better. A lot can be done in the split second saved from not having to click your spell book. Multiply all those split seconds by the number of casts done in a single fight and you will have a lot of time saved that would be used to manage your other clients. It doesn't make multi easy but it makes multi easier.

I don't know anyone doing this, but why would you consider this is bannable or something? Android users have a huge advantage when it comes to staking over PC players, it's basically stake botting what they do, can switch modes and items at the same time, same whilst they're DM'ing, they can lock the cast screen or w.e and inventory screen and can pretty much eat and cast without missing which is a huge advantage, if someone were able to do it on PC it'd only be fair in my opinion.

Lying introduction.

Too many players are dong this at fort it's obvious.

Castle died due to multi.

Castle died due to 90% of the pkers who have pked in the past 12 years have quit the game. Fort is alive because theres 2 teams other team is skillers who dont multi. Same people are the ones who multi in fort if anyone. If everyone had the ability to multi/PK actively on all levels castle would be popping.

Btw, what i said has nothing to do with fort, so idk what you're trying to say.

I can confirm it is being used. I have talked about this with 2 people who have/are using it on discord. First heard about it at the end of last year. Using it to stake on PC should be allowed. There is no point to stake on PC at all with a clear disadvatnage. DMs PC vs android, android users have a clear advantage as well so its not a huge cheat to equal things out. PKing on PC with an android emulator however gives you a huge advantage.

This method isn't safe and should be frowned on. Especially when you can automate what you do whist using your keyboard keys as short cuts. Ban anyone caught using this now. It's already been proven that it has its use in multi logging in directed 1ip zones.

I agree. I do not doubt that this is happening as the unfair advantage from casting easier might be too good to pass up for PC users.

Anyways it is possible to fingerprint users by using Android's API. The following methods under the BUILD class can be used to identify a users phone type, manufacturer, Android version, etc. ( https://developer.android.com/reference … d/os/Build )

I am sure the information returned by these methods can be spoofed by the simulation software used. However, this is probably a step in the right direction.

Here is a very hacky/hardcoded solution found on stack overflow to detect Google emulator users:

public static boolean isEmulator() {
    return Build.FINGERPRINT.startsWith("generic")
            || Build.FINGERPRINT.startsWith("unknown")
            || Build.MODEL.contains("google_sdk")
            || Build.MODEL.contains("Emulator")
            || Build.MODEL.contains("Android SDK built for x86")
            || Build.MANUFACTURER.contains("Genymotion")
            || (Build.BRAND.startsWith("generic") && Build.DEVICE.startsWith("generic"))
            || "google_sdk".equals(Build.PRODUCT);
}

Using this function might not be the right way to go. Instead the proper solution is probably to store what the methods return into the snapshot database of each user. Later on, if cheating is suspected, mods can investigate these snapshots.

I found humans alt

Why do you never have anything productive to say?

Hopefully they take a look at your code and lay the hammer down and diminish any use of automating/multi logging inside 1ip zones using these methods. Ban anyone caught using it.

This method isn't safe and should be frowned on. Especially when you can automate what you do whist using your keyboard keys as short cuts. Ban anyone caught using this now. It's already been proven that it has its use in multi logging in directed 1ip zones.

With this same logic you could say ban anyone who is using Android, and  PC to PK at times. It's already been proven that it has its use in multi logging directed in 1ip zones.

How damn stupid can some people be.

Lemme guess, you're a droid player, and you don't PK at all, but you would, if people wouldn't ''abuse'' 1ip rule, right?

I don't know anyone doing this, but why would you consider this is bannable or something? Android users have a huge advantage when it comes to staking over PC players, it's basically stake botting what they do, can switch modes and items at the same time, same whilst they're DM'ing, they can lock the cast screen or w.e and inventory screen and can pretty much eat and cast without missing which is a huge advantage, if someone were able to do it on PC it'd only be fair in my opinion.

Right click your chest in the corner. You can lock your inventory open on pc..

I agree. I would consider droid emulators a 3rd party client to improve your game from what it is. It should be a bannable offence if using it. There is no reason someone should have hotkeys to eat and or switch from one weapon to another when pking. That makes catching crazy easy and i wouldn't put it past most of these "great catchers" to be using it. ALSO, when one logs into a droid emulator your ip and or mac address is changed so one can enter a one ip zone on two clients if one chooses to do that. This could be where we are running into multi in fort. Fix one problem and it could fix alot.

So, i'd be allowed to use a stake bot on PC then? I'm curious how many people actually use this shit. Probably less than a handful. Maybe now you have more people trying it, but for the past months, there has been people using android and pc at the same time to multi in fort, pretty much mainly from your team, but theres no problem with that is there.. only real problem seems to be the fucking 1ip in general since there is always ways to get around it