I think this thread touches some good points. Gates to the monster cages should have been there from the beginning, I'm not sure why this location was chosen, probably for the added risk.

Since it does not require any particular ranged lvl it's not even really a guild isn't it? The name was chosen wrong I'd say...

But if we make adjustments to the range "guild", what requirements do you think the guild should have to enter, at what wildy lvl's would be a fair place to place it?

leave it where it is with no requirements. Get g00d. Skillers always trying to ruin pking stuff.

+1 on cages.

~K!zL

I think this thread touches some good points. Gates to the monster cages should have been there from the beginning, I'm not sure why this location was chosen, probably for the added risk.

Since it does not require any particular ranged lvl it's not even really a guild isn't it? The name was chosen wrong I'd say...

But if we make adjustments to the range "guild", what requirements do you think the guild should have to enter, at what wildy lvl's would be a fair place to place it?

Was added to make PKing more active. ..

But it is for sure quite outdated and should have some tweeks!

I agree the ranged guild isn't a guild at all.  I think it was kind of an oversight to call it a guild, it's just a ranged training spot.  I think the training spot should be left as is (or ad gates or whatever to pick up your arrows), and a more appropriate "guild" should be added non-wildy.

The "combat training camp" that you gain access to after completing the biohazard quest could be easily changed into a range guild.  Just remove the "fight dummies" and you have space for extra cages to add NPC's (could create some new NPC's with range related drops, ranging pots, arrows, etc).  There is a vendor in there already that sells bronze arrows, bolts and lower level arrow heads.  Just boost the count and types of arrows he sells, maybe even have him sell poisoned bronze arrows or something.  Change the entry requirement from completion of Biohazard to 70 range or something around there.

+1

leave it where it is with no requirements. Get g00d. Skillers always trying to ruin pking stuff.

+1 on cages.

~K!zL

Ruin Pking stuff... so... it's a pking guild now? Range has been a PVM skill forever, dont think the 'pkers can block it' thing is an issue, if you nerf the prayer then a team of 3 rangers can wipe anyone in 3 rounds vs a tank.

+1 non wild
+1 gates
+1 range requirement... Or multiple for higher level NPCS, can leave the lower ones open for training, 60 for demons, 80 for dragons, for example.

SUGGESTIONS:
1. Make the area Range only, otherwise people can just melee train there and ruin the point.
2. Add Salesman for arrows/bolts
3. Add Bank Chest

Right now there is no point going to the 'range guild' since the Hero Guild dragon is safe, easy, better loot, and more efficient.

Trapping people trying to train ranging to be killed without effort most of the time is not 'good for making pking active' Change it to gated melee training, similar to the rooms in the team fortress and make a real range guild.

Right now there is no point going to the 'range guild' since the Hero Guild dragon is safe, easy, better loot, and more efficient.

its faster exp, that's the point.

Actually, killing the red dragons in the hero guild, and various other ranging spots outside the guild are faster xp. I can freely use rune arrows with no risk and no telegrab in the Taverly dungeon, Hero Guild, and many other places, I regularly kill black demons, black dragons, fire giants, red dragons, blue dragons, lesser demons, and low level mobs faster, with more xp per hour, less loss and far less risk.

That area would be much more suited as a Melee training area and have a range guild outside the wilderness. ESPECIALLY since if you want more XP, the range guild is horrible in comparison of the team fortress. A PK and bonus XP dedicated area.

Actually, the Range guild would make a nice place to have a combat inspired team fortress. Move the Higher npcs like Fire giants and black demons to that place and add in Chaos druid warriors and normal giants to the skilling fortress. Then there is a much greater PK incentive to take over a chest full of drops from the western npcs, and drops from skilling to the west.

Repurposing the range guild as it is and creating a better suited guild for what it's purpose intends is the best solution. Crafting guilds dont give EXP boosts, Fishing guilds dont give XP boosts, so why is the Range guild in the wild for a XP boost? Especially when there is the lesser cage, greater demon ruins, high end wild dungeon and many other less magneted spots for people to range NPCs.

I created the Idea and area and i had administrator Hobbs create my idea in game. It was made to train range with risk. Extra xp while skull or just regular. I figure this would be good for both skillers and playerkillers and it work out fine. Often times is it dead there which i knew would be good for solo training and not crowded. We put it at wildy level. 32 because back then level 32 and up was perm p2p. We did alot of Other things too like blue dragons and a kbd in the corner near otherworldlys. Once he left i pretty gave up on helping this server with my ideas but to this day i beleive i could run a rsc style server better then anyone who has did it yet. N0m has did good but i believe and know he can do better.

AFAIK Hobbs made the Ranged Guild, I am open to remaking it!

Moved to suggestions